What? You’re in Therapy?

Drew #24
Published on
Jul 16, 2020
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This week, Doug and Meredith talk about fireworks, dad jokes, and great movies from their days as younguns. In the session, Drew acknowledges his growth in treatment, and with a little self reflection, he admits he is not very motivated right now. In the breakdown, Meredith talks about a focus of her work with clients on narrowing down our broad goals to the one small step you can take right now. (Look for an upcoming Insight Out focused on how to do this concretely!).


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Bonnie Rae

Bonnie is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Los Angeles. She is an instructor for graduate students in the LGBT Specialization Psychology program at Antioch University. Although her specialty is working with the LGBTQ community and people in the entertainment industry, she also assists clients in managing and/or overcoming anxiety, depression, trauma, stress, painful relationship patterns, creative blocks, co-dependency, love and sex addiction, issues with intimacy and low self-esteem.

Bonnie received a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree from Emerson College and a Masters in Clinical Psychology degree from Antioch University with a specialization in LGBT psychology.

Doug Friedman

Doug Friedman is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker that has spent nearly 20 years working with adults, adolescents and families with issues ranging from depression and anxiety to substance abuse, bipolar disorder and PTSD. He has supervised a program at a community mental health agency that serves severely emotionally disturbed youth and their families in Los Angeles. He continues to provide clinical supervision to therapists and associates in his private group practice, Clear Mind Full Heart in Los Angeles.

Doug received a Masters in Social Work from The Catholic University of America and a BA in Study of Religion from UCLA. Before becoming a psychotherapist, Doug worked for a music management company that oversaw bands like Nirvana, Foo Fighters, Beastie Boys, and Bonnie Raitt. Doug is also the artist and songwriter behind all the music heard on the podcast.

Meredith Levy

Meredith Levy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in the state of California and holds a Master’s Degree in Clinical Psychology from Antioch University. Over the last ten years she has worked with many different populations, and feels most at home working in addiction, personality disorders and mood disorders. Meredith specializes in Dialectical
Behavioral Therapy (DBT). Meredith worked with inner-city youth as a bi-lingual therapist for the Department of Mental Health in Los Angeles County. Not only has Meredith worked at a variety of different drug and alcohol treatment centers throughout California, she was also the co- founder of a large treatment facility in Northern California.

Meredith's extensive education and background as an attorney and an MBA gives her a unique perspective and a fresh approach to elevating personal growth. In addition, she is a certified yoga instructor and believes that the spiritual, physical and emotional aspects of the self are important components of the therapeutic process.

Key Takeaways

[0:43] Doug and Meredith talk fireworks over the holiday weekend, dad jokes, and old great movies.

[7:16] Session begins

[7:39] Drew reflects on his progress six months into therapy, and how his friends react to him being in therapy.

[10:50] Drew can recognize some of his patterns by noticing when he feels more like “Little Drew” - a younger version of himself that doesn’t feel safe.

[15:16] Doug and Drew swap stories of getting triggered in traffic. They acknowledge acting out of integrity in the moment rather than carrying the energy of a charged moment home. They discuss how asking “What do I get out of this?” is a way to take care of yourself.

[19:01] With a little self reflection Drew acknowledges that he is not very motivated right now. He shares that he’s often gotten motivation from a partner or friend and that it’s hard to get going for himself.

[21:16] Drew thinks aloud about finding meaningful ways to spend time with people. He’s trying to figure out what excites him and doesn’t want to put all his energy in one thing - like work.

[26:10] Doug asks Drew what one tangible step is that he can take tomorrow, to move himself towards something - not necessarily to reach the destination all in the first step.

[27:26] Doug gives Drew the “what if” game as homework for the week.

[31:06] Session ends. Breakdown begins

[31:47] Meredith and Doug talk about breaking the stigma and that mental health being talked about can be an empowering thing. Doug quotes Winnicott: “It is a joy to be hidden and a disaster not to be found.”

[34:14] Meredith revisits Doug’s mantra of don’t shut down, double down, as we see Drew towards the things that he used to run away from facing.

[35:53] Feel free to buy Meredith flowers and jewelry, but don’t expect that to erase something “negative.”

[40:12] Meredith highlights Drew trying to find where he fits in - it’s not hitting the clubs, and it ain’t joining a book club either! Meredith loves narrowing down our broad goals to the one small step you can take right now. (look for an upcoming Insight Out focused on how to do this concretely).

Mentioned on the Pod:

D.W. Winnicott - prominent psychoanalyst that Doug quoted.

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